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Post by sandawa on Sept 16, 2006 7:40:09 GMT 7
Bodgie,
Congrats. Ang bilis mo. Parang 6pm lang yata tayo magkausap sa phone, titingnan mo pa lang, 11 p.m. naka post na. Ang swerte mo dyan, I've been hunting for a pair of that for years, walang dumadating dito.
It's a classic, the most popular audiophile home speaker built by Yamaha. If I recall, the average resale value of NS-1000M in the US ranges from $400 to $600 -- hindi pa mint condition yun. Kahit sa Japan (Hifido figures) where it was made tumatakbo pa ng 60,000 yen ang pares ngayon. Panalong-panalo ka dyan.
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dana
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Post by dana on Sept 16, 2006 9:39:12 GMT 7
Hi Krisces,
danda danda naman ng collection mo! ilan lang meron ng dynaco, sayo pares pa!san ba meron nyan ng mura? sir nani, meron ba jan nagagawi ng mura rin ;D also,ur NS1000 seems very nice... sana, madagdagan rin ang collection ko ng mga ganyan!
post mo pa ung iba, surely may nkatago pa sa tabi tabi ng bahay ;D ;D ;D
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Post by sandawa on Sept 16, 2006 9:46:56 GMT 7
Don,
Krisces got them in Manila, not in Davao. But he visited Davao last week, and he's also into vintage gear ;D Mas maraming magaganda at mura dyan sa Maynila. If you want Dynacos, at may uuwi kang kamag-anak from US, dun ka magpabili malaki ang kamurahan.
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Post by southpeak on Sept 16, 2006 12:49:27 GMT 7
hi krisces, congratulation sir. dynaco combo, NS1000.. wow . mis ko tuloy yung eico st70.. keep on posting sir..
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Post by krisces on Sept 16, 2006 12:56:41 GMT 7
Sir ttinio,
Salamat po!
Sir Dana,
Dito ko lang nabili sa maynila ang mga iyan. At di ka maniniwala sa mga presyo niyan dahil saksakan ng mga mura. Nasa paghahanap lang at konting swerte ang sikreto.
Sir Sandawa,
Thank you sa mga info nyo. Sa sobrang excited ko sa aking newly acquired speaker ay kinunan ko na sya ng picture kahit di ko pa napupunasan at nalilinis. When i talked to u yesterday, i thought that i would see a dilapidated one or a wrong model as the price was considerably very cheap. When I saw the item, i was excited since the model was not the yamaha ns-1000 but the more expensive ns-1000M model. Based on my findings in the internet, NS stands for Natural Sound while M stands for Monitor. The ns-1000 is the "home" version while the ns-1000M was the industry standard in the recording industry during the 70's. When i heard the speakers, the sound was really natural. The clarity of the highs and the mids was unequal. Then you mentioned that I should check on the bass to see kung sumasayad na yung tunog pag malakas. But lo and behold, even when you turn the volume at the 3 o'clock position, walang kasayad-sayad at buong buo pa rin. I learned later that the speakers were brought by a japanese expat in the philippines to be used on his home. Tapos nung umalis na sya, di na nya inuwi yung speakers kaya binenta na dito. Kaya siguro maganda yung pag-alaga sa speakers. Besides the usual nicks at the bottom and at the corners of the speakers as well as the dusts accumulated outside the domes, the speakers appear to be in tip-top condition. Kaya tama ka sir Sandawa na panalong-panalo ako dito considering the condition and the price i paid for the speakers. For "keeps" na siguro ito. Excited na akong marinig ito gamit yung el-34 tube amp ko since may nakita akong thread na perfect match daw yung dalawa. I will keep you updated on the it. Salamat po ulit. ;D ;D
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Lordfoo
Audionut
Listen to be heard.
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Post by Lordfoo on Sept 16, 2006 13:19:04 GMT 7
Krisces....
Veeerrrrry veeerrrryyy nice Yammies!!!!
foo
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Post by sandawa on Sept 16, 2006 13:36:00 GMT 7
I forgot to mention. Krisces is Dabawenyo, he was born here. I was actually expecting an NS-1000M since the original NS-1000 is difficult to obtain. Although the NS-1000M was designed as studio monitor, it became more popular as home speaker. It's the reverse for the small NS-10M, which was originally sold as home speaker (despite the M) but became popular as studio nearfield monitor.
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Post by stereophile on Sept 17, 2006 6:22:22 GMT 7
It's the reverse for the small NS-10M, which was originally sold as home speaker (despite the M) but became popular as studio nearfield monitor. Sandawa- Hi. Years ago, I bought my 1st Yamaha HT system(pre-DTS). Just being new to HT(and probably not knowing any better)I opted to get a matching set of Yamaha 5.0 speakers(no sub was included). For the fronts, a pair of NS-10M T, was included in the package. What does the extra "T" mean? Is it the same as the NS-10M you mentioned? At the back it says 6 ohms 60-180watts. Are they any good based on reviews you may have read? I still have the speakers intact and in pristine condition. Never used them for audio though. Thx in advance.
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Post by sandawa on Sept 17, 2006 8:19:33 GMT 7
The NS-10MT is a derivative of the NS-10M, which became a worldwide reference for nearfield studio monitoring. Unfortunately, the NS-10M is not in the same class as good home bookshelf speakers -- too flat as described by sound engineers -- unless you would use an equalizer.
That flatness made it to studios worldwide since according to top audio engineers in the US, any song properly mixed using NS-10M as monitor would sound good when played using ordinary speakers. What Yamaha did was to introduce variants that cured the speakers' flatness. Thus, the NS-10M Studio, NS-10M Pro, NS-10MC, NS-10MT, etc., were introduced in the market, with adjustments in mid to high frequencies and higher prices too. (The original NS-10M was sold in the '70s at 52,000 yen (26,000 yen per piece) -- roughly $250/ pair at that time's exchange rate.
Yamaha stopped producing the NS-10M in late '90s, I think, when the Japanese government banned the cutting of the tree specie where the pulp of the 10M came from. Yamaha said the sound of the 10M would not be the same if pulp from different tree species is used. But the global demand for such speakers was rising, thus they sold the variants to satisfy the demand -- I guess no longer using the original pulp.
The MT was produced in 1999 and still available now brand new. It was orignally sold at roughly 70,000 yen per pair but re-sale value now is a bit lower than the original 10M, which still fetches up to $500 in US and Japan's auctions depending on condition. I don't know what the T is all about but I know it's a variant of the original NS-10M. It could probably represent an adjustment in the crossover to fit home (T)heatre application.
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Post by Superman on Sept 17, 2006 12:54:07 GMT 7
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Post by Superman on Sept 17, 2006 12:56:40 GMT 7
sir sandawa, kelangan siguro gumawa ng panibangong thread on vintage gears... teka, do you consider cary audio, dynaco ST-70, audible illusions as "vintage"??thanks!
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Post by sandawa on Sept 18, 2006 8:50:27 GMT 7
Yes, a new vintage thread would be good but I think there are already some opened by other guys a year ago. There are also existing threads in other sections where some of the posts here would fit better. This is originally for surplus/vintage gear coming from Davao but a lot of stray posts lately.
On second comment, it would depend on the manufacturing date. I personally think a 20-year old gear should be vintage but many Audio Karma guys felt "vintage" should refer to those that came out in '70s and earlier when hifi firms still had almost unlimited budget in developing new products and competition was at its stiffest (competition drives quality up).
The original Dynaco of the Hafler and Bongiorno team built ST-70 in the '60s as a kit, but there are new ones built in the '90s. (The Dynaco brand was for a while held by a Singaporean firm). Audible Illusions and Cary were once regarded as boutique-type or specialized hifi and although AI started in late '70s, most of its gear were produced in late '80s and 90s. Cary came out only in the '90s, therefore not vintage.
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Post by southpeak on Oct 21, 2006 21:04:21 GMT 7
The NS-10MT is a derivative of the NS-10M, which became a worldwide reference for nearfield studio monitoring. Unfortunately, the NS-10M is not in the same class as good home bookshelf speakers -- too flat as described by sound engineers -- unless you would use an equalizer. The MT was produced in 1999 and still available now brand new. It was orignally sold at roughly 70,000 yen per pair but re-sale value now is a bit lower than the original 10M, which still fetches up to $500 in US and Japan's auctions depending on condition. I don't know what the T is all about but I know it's a variant of the original NS-10M. It could probably represent an adjustment in the crossover to fit home (T)heatre application. FOLLOW UP: ;D www11.plala.or.jp/se_ke5583/YAMAHA/speaker/ns-10mt.htmli tried the Babel Fish translator and got this: NS-10M in the base, the speaker system which is improved to the one for theater sound. Low in the limits the 18cm cone type woofer by the white cone is loaded. In addition, to the dome type of 3cm the eater is loaded to high pass. In the magnetic circuit, both parties of the main magnet and the cancellation magnet it magnetizes in the origin of the respective optimum environment, it occurs it adopts the A MAG system anti magnetic circuit which denies also the electric current strain with former cancellation magnetic system. The enclosure has extended depth from NS-10M, wide range conversion is assured. In addition, the screw hole is guaranteed in the one for speaker bracket attachment. which confirms sandawa_san's assumption.. case close
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Post by sandawa on Oct 22, 2006 8:35:19 GMT 7
I bought a Marantz CD-34 last month from a warehouse here simply because I saw on Hifido that it currently sells at about 40,000 yen in Japan's used market. In comparison, an average CDP, including low-model Sony ES sold at the Pier, would have a quote at 5,000 yo 10,000 yen at Hifido. CD-34 was released in 1984 by Philips, which owned Marantz at that time. The same Philips unit was said to be the first CDP tweaked to sound in between the clinical digital and traditional analog. British hifi biggies Mission and Meridian commissioned Philips for the same unit, tweaked a little more and re-badged as their own at four-figure prices. CD-34 and its variants were not your normal size CDP. It measures 13X11 inches but weighs about 7 kgs. My unit failed to work when I got it a month ago. I had time to work on it last Friday and it now works fine. It's my second vintage CDP with a history of being tweaked by the manufacturer to sound more like analog. The first is my 1989 Revox B226. Here are the photos of the Marantz CD-34, on top, and its Mission DAD-7000 brother version, below:
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Post by Superman on Oct 22, 2006 14:59:06 GMT 7
congratulations again!
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Post by sandawa on Nov 4, 2006 8:11:55 GMT 7
Just to update this thread. Not many good surplus hifi arriving here in Davao nowadays but I did score several units the past two months. Unfortunately, unlike before, I'm busy and no longer have the time to take photos of my new acquisitions. I'll be travelling around the island again in the coming days, so this hobby would be taking a backseat in the meantime. Ipod and laptop music na lang muna! One remarkable gear I've got was a mint-condition Sony DVP-S7700 at a price roughly 5% of its retail quote in the US and UK. The machine reads DVDs and CDs (original and pirated) flawlessly -- an older model of this unit -- DVP-S7000 (used) -- is being sold in another forum here at P27,000. My new toy is gold-tone and matches with many of my vintage gear. DVP-S7700's manual is available at the Sony US website and it responds to universal remote control costing P80 each. www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews/dvps7700.htmlFor travellers visiting Davao, a lot of Japanese domestic DVD players are arriving here sold in warehouses at P1K each. Those units, however, are not very good at reading counterfeit DVDs. They read CDs, original and recorded, though. Traders' outlets sell surplus branded DVD players here from P2K to P2.5K each.
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Post by Superman on Nov 4, 2006 8:34:13 GMT 7
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Post by Superman on Nov 17, 2006 13:36:49 GMT 7
...got a very mint Sony KD-32HD800 Progressive Scan, Tru-Surround 5.1 DRC Digital Hi-Vision TV (reads memory stick, has 5.1 optical out, has RGB input)**female model not included
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Post by Superman on Nov 17, 2006 15:21:19 GMT 7
sir sandawa, do you have a yamaha NS-10?? one of the store staff here is raving about his NS-10...mukhhang ibebenta yata...thanks!
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Post by sandawa on Nov 17, 2006 19:10:07 GMT 7
I have currently 3 pairs of Yamaha NS-10M. I might sell two pairs next month in Manila since I'm using only one pair. A used pair of NS-10M, however, is still selling from $500 to $750 per pair in the US. Here's a link: www.oaktreeent.com/Stereo_Speakers.htm
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