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Post by iceman90a on Feb 20, 2005 19:36:35 GMT 7
something i dont understand... my philips 642 hangs on one of my ALIAS ehem dvd's - but my kebao plays it with no hitch apparently the dvd9 embossed on the label slightly warps the data side of the disc bakit ganun? |
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Post by JojoD818 on Feb 21, 2005 12:21:40 GMT 7
something i dont understand... my philips 642 hangs on one of my ALIAS ehem dvd's - but my kebao plays it with no hitch apparently the dvd9 embossed on the label slightly warps the data side of the disc bakit ganun? hhmm... baka mas forgiving lang yun lens nun Kebao kaysa dun sa philips? i mean, kung meron kaunting garbage na na-read ok lang sa kanya. yun Kebao 6089 ko wala din pinipili, pero baka naman mas malinaw yun mga branded dvd players. at any rate, kuntento na ako sa generic. ;D |
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Post by kimpao on Feb 21, 2005 12:42:34 GMT 7
hhmm... baka mas forgiving lang yun lens nun Kebao kaysa dun sa philips? i mean, kung meron kaunting garbage na na-read ok lang sa kanya. yun Kebao 6089 ko wala din pinipili, pero baka naman mas malinaw yun mga branded dvd players. at any rate, kuntento na ako sa generic. ;D Baka naman nangangakati dun sa ehem DVDs yung philips . ;D |
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Post by iceman90a on Feb 21, 2005 12:51:36 GMT 7
hhmm... baka mas forgiving lang yun lens nun Kebao kaysa dun sa philips? i mean, kung meron kaunting garbage na na-read ok lang sa kanya. yun Kebao 6089 ko wala din pinipili, pero baka naman mas malinaw yun mga branded dvd players. at any rate, kuntento na ako sa generic. ;D yun nga lang masasabi ko - mas malinaw yung philips kaysa kebao  parang may upsampling yata - kasi pati yung mga uhurm CDR's ko galing sa net eh lumilinaw ;D |
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Post by kimpao on Feb 21, 2005 12:52:54 GMT 7
yun nga lang masasabi ko - mas malinaw yung philips kaysa kebao parang may upsampling yata - kasi pati yung mga uhurm CDR's ko galing sa net eh lumilinaw ;D Uy ano yang uhurm CDR's na yan. Baka pwede mahiram. ;D |
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Post by wanderlust on Feb 21, 2005 13:28:40 GMT 7
yong hang ba na cinasabi mo sir e yong d na gumagana lhat ng keys including the power button and trhe only way to do it is tangalin sya sa saksakan... parang reset.
my 626k din kasi ako and lately nag hahang na din sya, d ko lang kasi masabi kung is it bec of the disc or the player itself.
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Post by s2kov on Feb 21, 2005 13:59:35 GMT 7
Vince,
Nangyari din skin yan before with Pioneer DV555K. I emailed Pioneer regarding my complain, they ask me to bring it with their service center. Pagkakuha ko OKs na, basa na lahat ng !@#$%^& DVDs ko. ;D
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Post by iceman90a on Feb 21, 2005 15:09:48 GMT 7
disc related yung sakin, kasi kita mo naman sa data side na refracted yung part na nakasulat dvd9 eh...
nagtataka lang ako, bakit yung mura kaya basahin... dapat yung gumagawa ng branded naconsider na yung ganun, kaya nga mas mahal sila di ba?
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Post by s2kov on Feb 21, 2005 15:42:46 GMT 7
Service center told me that there are certain format on @#$%^& DVDs that does not recognize by branded players in which the generic players has. What they did is they include those formats on my DVD player. Does it mean, my DVD player transformed to generic one?  ;D Well, that's what they only told me that they did on my unit. I don't know if it's true. ;D |
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Post by hans adriane on Feb 21, 2005 19:06:03 GMT 7
Service center told me that there are certain format on @#$%^& DVDs that does not recognize by branded players in which the generic players has. What they did is they include those formats on my DVD player. Does it mean, my DVD player transformed to generic one? ;D Well, that's what they only told me that they did on my unit. I don't know if it's true. ;D Galing pa rin Generic.. ;D ;D |
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Post by j_albert22 on Feb 22, 2005 7:38:14 GMT 7
disc related yung sakin, kasi kita mo naman sa data side na refracted yung part na nakasulat dvd9 eh... nagtataka lang ako, bakit yung mura kaya basahin... dapat yung gumagawa ng branded naconsider na yung ganun, kaya nga mas mahal sila di ba? kasi mura rin yong binabasa kaya bagay cla ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Octaver on Feb 22, 2005 8:24:40 GMT 7
Branded is for me! (in our house) ;D Generic for them (in my house) Seriously, branded for DVD-A & SACD's When I'm playing DVD-V legitimate or $@&*^% if can't be played with the B definitely G can do the job! I'm sure difference with picture quality is negligible if youre not into HDTV using DVI or Progressive connections using Component Video. ( in short if you don't have monitor bigger than 29") (IMHO)  |
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Post by avphile on Feb 22, 2005 15:08:33 GMT 7
I am tempted to say that most branded entry-level players are priced to cover the premium on their names, when it's entirely possible that the aspiring generic player still trying to make a name for itself has the same, if not better, parts, design or construction at a much lower price. (Well, I just said it. ;D) Case in point is the Rainbow DVD player I had last year. It's JPG loading and viewing was so fast compared to a painfully slow-poke Pioneer model I was testing. Another case is a Philips DVD menu display and navigation that looks exactly like a generic player menu (forgot the name). Even the remote looks the same, but of different color. It was clear they share the same firmware for displaying and navigating the menu. Picture and audio quality appeared identical as well. I also noticed that many generics sport features that many entry level branded players don't have. Like VGA terminals. Multiple ZOOM, Built-in DTS surround decoder with 5.1 analog outs. Karaoke mic input. Sometimes, branded players advertise a feature you can only enjoy in a limited way. I recall a Pioneer DVD player that screams 192/24 on its facade. Then I look at the back panel and wonder how I can benefit from its DAC in 5.1 when it only has a Stereo analog output!!! Using its digital out for DTS will totally bypass the 192/24 DAC. What a waste of specs.  In general, entry-level branded players may not be the way to go. They have bare features. If you have to go branded, go mid-level. But that will ofcourse cost a lot. An argument can be made that those entry level branded players have better picture stability and audio. I think they do but the difference can be so subtle as to be obvious only in big 27" TVs or more. But I wonder how many people who can only afford entry level DVD players to have large screen TVs. |
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Post by iceman90a on Feb 22, 2005 15:45:26 GMT 7
But I wonder how many people who can only afford entry level DVD players to have large screen TVs. ah don't forget about surplus tv's ;D |
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Post by wanderlust on Feb 22, 2005 16:10:27 GMT 7
yes the surplus, i remember seeing one at the pier sporting the hi dif feature but alas it was priced extra-ordinarily.
btw sir avphile, at what price range would a branded player be considered mid level?
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Post by avphile on Feb 22, 2005 17:21:01 GMT 7
ah don't forget about surplus tv's ;D Ok, missed that one. ;D |
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Post by avphile on Feb 22, 2005 17:38:13 GMT 7
btw sir avphile, at what price range would a branded player be considered mid level? Depends on the brand. I would say starting at 12T for some brands. Though some may have entry levels that start at that price and their mids would hover above 20T. Rotel's entry level DVD players start at 40T, but they are feature-packed already. |
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Post by wanderlust on Feb 24, 2005 12:58:05 GMT 7
Depends on the brand. I would say starting at 12T for some brands. Though some may have entry levels that start at that price and their mids would hover above 20T. Rotel's entry level DVD players start at 40T, but they are feature-packed already. thnx sir. |
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Post by JojoD818 on Feb 25, 2005 21:23:27 GMT 7
A long time ago I saw a schematic (size of a blueprint) of a Nextbase and a known branded dvd player, my inaanak who is a tv tech pointed out that there were no difference between the two! Of course the board layouts were very different but both players were slim types. So I ask why is it that generic players are cheap and branded players sell almost 3-4 times? Was it the name brand? Well, it wasn't, generic players can sell cheap because they don't pay the $50 (that is per unit) registration fee to use the DVD logo and the codes used to decode it's datastream. The official specification was developed by a consortium of ten companies: Hitachi, JVC, Matsunutsa, Mitsubishi, Philips, Pioneer, Sony, Thomson, Time Warner, and Toshiba. If I'm not mistaken, the $50 goes to these companies who developed the dvd data codes and conventions. I do suggest that we try and compare the resolutions of a generic and a branded dvd player using a known and reliable tv monitor and observe if there would be any resolution differences. |
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Post by JojoD818 on Feb 25, 2005 21:31:56 GMT 7
I forgot, these are some of the fees that generic dvd players must pay...
CSS encryption technology decoding scheme, Dolby licenses for it's decoding products, MPEG-2 license, and if the dvd player also plays vcd formats, it must also pay license for Video CD format use, and other royalties.
Also, most of these units are being made by people who's salary are composed mainly of food and logging.
FYI.
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parang may upsampling yata - kasi pati yung mga uhurm CDR's ko galing sa net eh lumilinaw ;D
;D Well, that's what they only told me that they did on my unit. I don't know if it's true. ;D 
