sand filling your floorstanders

[narayan]

to this date, i have not tried sand filling my ms914s... has any member tried doing it to their speakers like the wharf 8.3/8.4 and similarly designed floorstanders

pa share naman how you did it and the result...thanks

[Control]

narayan said:

to this date, i have not tried sand filling my ms914s... has any member tried doing it to their speakers like the wharf 8.3/8.4 and similarly designed floorstanders

pa share naman how you did it and the result...thanks

Yup, I did... kasama ko pa nga si misis sa paglalagay nung sand fill sa wharfe 8.3 ko eh....

As per Master Hans said...dalawang kilong dry sand na nilagay sa supot ng ice candy tapos tinalian bawat isa para kung tatanggalin mo na eh no sweat dahil hihilahin mo na lang yung tali....

Requirements:
1. Timbangan - para saktong 2 kilo walang labis walang kulang ;D
2. supot ng ice candy
3. strainer - para talagang pinong pino yung sand fill mo
4. yarn - pangtali
5. Screw Driver
6. Dry cotton cloth
7. Sand - itatanong nyo pa ba kung bakit?

result of the project.... mids ang highs was much more balanced and noticeable LF improvement.... ;D

[sandawa]

i have done that before, nung mahilig pa akong mag-experiment. it improves performance of the speakers specifically in reducing resonance, pero depende sa speaker box. the heavier ones don't get much benefit from it, but for the others, it results in increased definition.

the simple tweaks i do to my speakers recently were to put iron disk weights on top of the smaller ones - 10kgs. placed on top - and sandwich my bigger bookshelfs between red bricks instead of using stands. roughly 10 kgs of bricks under and above. i can hear improvement, but not significant though, except for the small speakers.

[narayan]

control,

para saan ung screw driver and dry cotton cloth where do you terminate the lawit na yarn...mga ilang supot ng ice candy and 2 kgs of sand... 2 kgs per side or total?

sensiya na dami tanong and thanks ;D

[punk kid]

narayan said:

control,

para saan ung screw driver and dry cotton cloth where do you terminate the lawit na yarn...mga ilang supot ng ice candy and 2 kgs of sand... 2 kgs per side or total?

sensiya na dami tanong and thanks ;D

sir obet... pangsundot yata yun sa plastic cover ng 8.3 nya... yung dry cotton cloth naman para sa pagpunas ng pawis habang tinatanggal yung cover ;D fish po control

[avphile]

All my MS914s are sand-filled. The internal volume of the speaker is a lot less than many other floorstanders precisely due to this separately sealed sand-fillable chamber. The manufacturer apparently has a purpose why the chamber is there. Might as well use it for its purpose. Sand-filling it to 80% capacity makes the speakers virtually immovable where they are and requires 2 people to carry. ;D The benefit is more psychological for me, knowing that the resonance of the cabinet is pushed higher to inaudible range supposedly when sand-filled and heavy.

[narayan]

avphile,

bro, how did you sand fill the 914s? did you use multiple ice candy bags to hold the sand? in terms of volume, how much sand is equivalent to approximately 80% of the chamber? any special precautionary measures in filling? tia

[Control]

narayan said:

control,

para saan ung screw driver and dry cotton cloth where do you terminate the lawit na yarn...mga ilang supot ng ice candy and 2 kgs of sand... 2 kgs per side or total?

sensiya na dami tanong and thanks ;D

Sir Obet, the screw driver is used for removing the cover of the sand fill area of the speaker.. the cloth is used to cover the head of the screw driver to minimize the wear or "gasgas" of the speaker during the "operation" process wherein you remove the cover of the sand fill area...the supot of ice canday naman, just buy a pack of 100's, mura lang naman yun....also, make sure that the "dulo" of the yarn is "nakalabas sa butas" when you bring the cover back so that you can easily pull it when needed...and a total of 4 kilos of fine sand is needed... 2 kilos per side...

Hope that helps Sir Obet...

[narayan]

[quote author=Control
Sir Obet, the screw driver is used for removing the cover of the sand fill area of the speaker.. the cloth is used to cover the head of the screw driver to minimize the wear or "gasgas" of the speaker during the "operation" process wherein you remove the cover of the sand fill area...the supot of ice canday naman, just buy a pack of 100's, mura lang naman yun....also, make sure that the "dulo" of the yarn is "nakalabas sa butas" when you bring the cover back so that you can easily pull it when needed...and a total of 4 kilos of fine sand is needed... 2 kilos per side...

Hope that helps Sir Obet... [/quote]

ah ok bro...ung sa ms kasi snap on plastic cover wala nang screw to hold the cover in place. thanks again

[Control]

narayan said:

ah ok bro...ung sa ms kasi snap on plastic cover wala nang screw to hold the cover in place. thanks again

You're very much welcome Sir..

[avphile]

narayan said:

avphile,

bro, how did you sand fill the 914s? did you use multiple ice candy bags to hold the sand? in terms of volume, how much sand is equivalent to approximately 80% of the chamber? any special precautionary measures in filling? tia

Those bistay sand available from hardware & construction stores have some moisture in them. They should be thoroughly dry. Well, some folks don't recommend beach sand. But as long as they're thoroughly dry, they'll do as well.

First, let the bistay sand dry under the sun. Pour them on a large "plangana" and leave under the sun for about 3 days. That should do it.

For the MS914, I poured the dry sand directly into the hole, using an "imbudo" with the speaker down on its face. No ice candy bags. Once the sand is at level with the bottom part of the hole, I think that's about 80% full. Just make sure the sand won't leak out through the hole when you bring the speaker upright. You can use ice candy bags of course, but I have no idea how many to put in.

The back of the MS914 can be easily openned using a special star screwdriver I bought from ACE. You can open the back and fill the chamber with sand directly or using ice candy bags. You can also use those smooth stone pebbles which to me are less messy. But sand is more homogenous and even.

[narayan]

thanks for your ideas control and avphile

[Control]

narayan said:

thanks for your ideas control and avphile

Actually Sir, Master Hans was the one who have instructed me on how to put the sandfill..

Mabuhay si kOya ;D ;D ;D

[bluemagic]

also you can put a plastic bag inside the "sand port" before you put the sand. then tie the end before you close the port.
in case you'll sell the speakers later and the buyer doesn't like sand-filled, you can remove the sand and the speakers will be clean and "sand-free".

[Handyman]

bluemagic said:

also you can put a plastic bag inside the "sand port" before you put the sand. then tie the end before you close the port.
in case you'll sell the speakers later and the buyer doesn't like sand-filled, you can remove the sand and the speakers will be clean and "sand-free".

Tama ka dyan brad.

[avphile]

Looks exactly what I did to sandfill the MS