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Post by avphile on Jan 12, 2005 13:22:30 GMT 7
Most of the forums on the net are one is saying there's really no discernible sonic difference between a well-pressed CD and an SACD version of the same title. That's because they both came from the same PCM masters or multi-track reel tapes. Most SACD titles out there are mere re-issues of old CD titles and are not worth getting, unless they have multi-channel tracks.
But SACDs using masters that used the 1-bit DSD to capture the performance from the start exhibit greater sonic realism. Any suggested titles out there that are not re-ssues but are from original DSD masters?
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Post by Octaver on Jan 14, 2005 10:31:04 GMT 7
Try SACD Sampler!
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Post by jcob on Jan 18, 2005 10:30:05 GMT 7
I have a TELARC SACD SAMPLER " An Introduction to SACD". It's a Multi-Channel and HYBRID SACD. Sounds great, beyond compare with my regular CD collections.
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Post by Superman on Jan 18, 2005 10:47:50 GMT 7
All Patricia Barber SACD by Mobile Fidelity
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Post by avphile on Jan 18, 2005 13:40:43 GMT 7
All Patricia Barber SACD by Mobile Fidelity I have her Nightclub and Companion SACD. Her Cafe BLue is often used as a test or reference CD. But all of them came from 24-bit PCM masters. |
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Post by akyatbundok on Jan 20, 2005 12:16:51 GMT 7
pink floyd - dark side of the moon (30th anniversary edition)
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Post by Octaver on Feb 16, 2005 15:43:29 GMT 7
Livingstone Taylor - Ink album
Dr Chesky Sampler
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Post by audioslave on Apr 14, 2005 12:40:21 GMT 7
pink floyd - dark side of the moon (30th anniversary edition) I have this title in LP and SACD.... don't ask me which format is better coz u already know the answer....  ;D |
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Post by avphile on Apr 14, 2005 16:38:15 GMT 7
The medium is only as good as how the recording engineers did their job. SACD promises the ultimate sonic resolution with the unrepressed bandwidth of analog open reels that in CDs was constricted to the 20khz bandwidth limit.
But if you have recording engineers who haven't heard the original analog recordings and are a bit too overly-eager to modify the tape masters to highlight the resolving power of the higher resolution digital craft, you could end up with digitally remixed sonics from analog masters that have less impact than the originals.
Pink Floyd's Dark Side is one case in point. The album was one of the finest pop analog recordings mastered on open reels at around the advent of digital age in 1973. Many audiophiles consider the LP sonics superior to subsequent digital transcriptions, especially the QS quadraphonic release. And because open reels have a way of degrading over time, revisiting those degraded archived materials for an SACD DSD transcirption was just another bad idea. Especially in the hands of recording engineers whose only objective was to remix the original tapes for more detail, often at the sacrifice of the totality of the impact that the original mix had. The SACD version apparently has more detail in the remix, but somehow loses out when compared to the original analog mix on LP in terms of listenabiity and euphony.
In short, just becasue an analog album is reissued n SACD doesn't automatically mean it is better than the original analog release. Often, the fault lies with the new mixes made by less than competent recording engineers. Nothing to do with the media.
I personally prefer to leave the originals as they were. If mastered in LPs, so let it remain in LPs. Unless the digital transciption was made by competent recording engineers who were able to restore the sonics to its original open reel quality and not play around for more details. And there are many done by noted labels. Just as there are many that sulks.
I've learned over time that digital shows its superiority when the actual performance was captured digitally, not transcribed from older analog recordigns. Newer performances of some classical pieces captured digitally shows their awesome detail and spaceousness when compared to older performances on LPs. I certainly will not exchange my DVD-A Daniel Barenboim readings of the Beethoven 9th symphony with any of the Herbert von Karajan readings in analog LPs made in the 60s, no matter how more definitive the performances were. The listening experience on the DVD-A has to be heard to be appreciated. That is why, when choosing SACDs and DVD-As I prefer titles whose performances were captured in DSD or PCM as the case may be, and not mere transciptions from one medium to another. SACDs transcribed from PCM masters do not sound any better than their PCM-based CDs. And certainly, while SACDs or DVD-As transcribed from analog open reels may be superior to CD transcriptions thereof, neither can be any more superior to their LP originals. There's a higher chance that those transcirptions are even inferior to the origs if the recording engineers know no better. NOthing beats the original, especially when it is made by recording engineers who know how to max the medium, whether analog or digital.
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Post by avphile on Oct 4, 2005 9:22:12 GMT 7
Last I visited Montage at greenbelt 4, they seem to have new SACD stocks. I just had to control myself browsing through as I new I might end up getting a few that would close up my credit card. ;D Someone should really open up a local SACD pressing plant.
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Post by joel on Nov 27, 2005 9:11:54 GMT 7
the SACD of the jazz group No Assembly Required entitled Pieces of Dream is a good sounding Hybrid MultiChannel software.
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