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Post by hans adriane on Jan 12, 2005 13:25:59 GMT 7
Guys,
If you plan to venture into tubes what will be your first choice? Vintage, DIY, New production or Local tube amps?
When i started with tube my first amp was a Vintage Scott 222a integrated amp uses EL84 tube and 12watts. ;D ;D
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Post by wanderlust on Jan 12, 2005 13:29:31 GMT 7
DIY agad sir, as this is like hitting two birds in one stone, yong tunog na gusto mo at a price you can dictate. but i do hope to own at least one vintage one day, pogi kasi vintage amp e, lalo pag collectors item na tlaga.  |
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Post by punk kid on Jan 12, 2005 14:02:04 GMT 7
heard at lot of tube amps last year but i can't afford one  hopefully this year i can have one ma-vintage of new prod ;D |
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Post by hans adriane on Jan 12, 2005 14:12:42 GMT 7
DIY agad sir, as this is like hitting two birds in one stone, yong tunog na gusto mo at a price you can dictate. but i do hope to own at least one vintage one day, pogi kasi vintage amp e, lalo pag collectors item na tlaga. Agree iba talaga pag custom made to your preference unlike yun RTU ( ready to use ;D ;D ) na some are tweak to suit your needs pa extra gastos. |
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Post by hans adriane on Jan 12, 2005 14:15:52 GMT 7
heard at lot of tube amps last year but i can't afford one hopefully this year i can have one ma-vintage of new prod ;D Nowaday grabe price ng new production Tube amps yun 21k to 40k if we compare it to SS amp for 15k meron ka na maganda and reliable SS amp.. Wish wish magpush thru yun project ng AMX budget amp. ;D |
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Post by JojoD818 on Jan 12, 2005 14:49:05 GMT 7
Tube amp good for beginners???
I suppose ang sgot dyan is SET, it's simple, easy to maintain, and a lot cheaper. But you will say, "eh ang hina naman, 3-8 watts lang."
actually the problem is not the amp, it's our speakers. those days na hindi pa tayo tao, halos 100+ dB ang mga sensitivity ng speakers, yun nga lang 2W na SET mabibingi ka na. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by hans adriane on Jan 12, 2005 15:10:45 GMT 7
Tube amp good for beginners??? I suppose ang sgot dyan is SET, it's simple, easy to maintain, and a lot cheaper. But you will say, "eh ang hina naman, 3-8 watts lang." actually the problem is not the amp, it's our speakers. those days na hindi pa tayo tao, halos 100+ dB ang mga sensitivity ng speakers, yun nga lang 2W na SET mabibingi ka na. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Correct ka dyan Masta JOJOD problem lang kasi mostly mga new tube converts usually uses 90db below speaker and 94db speaker are more expensive and hard to find in shop. |
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Post by punk kid on Jan 13, 2005 8:16:54 GMT 7
Correct ka dyan Masta JOJOD problem lang kasi mostly mga new tube converts usually uses 90db below speaker and 94db speaker are more expensive and hard to find in shop. What is the minimum db sensitivity when using a PP and SET amps? |
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Post by s2kov on Jan 13, 2005 8:51:40 GMT 7
SET, at least 94dB up. PP, 88dB is enough depending on the power of amp. What is the minimum db sensitivity when using a PP and SET amps?
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Post by JojoD818 on Jan 13, 2005 8:54:15 GMT 7
SET, at least 94dB up. PP, 88dB is enough depending on the power of amp. i second that. pero rule of thumb daw... the higher the sensitivity the better. |
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Post by wanderlust on Jan 13, 2005 12:45:21 GMT 7
solusyon dyan mga sir, maghanap ng lumang speaker sa pier for your set amps, hehehe. hirap lang kasi ng mga speakers sa supermarket burado na rin yong sensitivity (minsan wala pangf nakalagay tlga) rating and the wattage. notice ko nga din, most speakers now a days are rated at lower than 89db, specially the more affordable ones. my isa pa palang choice, DIY speakers o mag pa DIY ka. |
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Post by punk kid on Jan 13, 2005 12:54:18 GMT 7
Nowaday grabe price ng new production Tube amps yun 21k to 40k if we compare it to SS amp for 15k meron ka na maganda and reliable SS amp.. Wish wish magpush thru yun project ng AMX budget amp. ;D Let's keep our fingers crossed ;D well it depends dun sa listener kung ano type nyang pakinggan pero usually pag nakarinig na ng tube amp... hooked na ;D |
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Post by hans adriane on Jan 14, 2005 9:31:53 GMT 7
Let's keep our fingers crossed ;D well it depends dun sa listener kung ano type nyang pakinggan pero usually pag nakarinig na ng tube amp... hooked na ;D Quote from Master Andrew.. The chassis and metal works are now underway. I think baka matapos sa punch and press by first week of Feb. Dami kasi holiday, dont want to pay overtime, baka lumagpas sa budget. Anyway the circuits are done, and is now playing in my home in atemporary chassis. I am happy with the outcome, to think na wala akong ginamit na "boutique" parts. All standard but good quality. Pwede pala yon. Anyway you can always install the expensive caps, its your ear and its your money. But as for now I am happy with the sound using the mini version of the contodo preamp, that is no cd input buffer and no phono stage. Keeping you posted. Malapit na. Hintay ko na lang ang tubes, dito na, hold pa nang customs, need to get ICC, bagong rule bigla, nasunog kasi yong bahay sa dasma, lahat ng electrical and electronic products kailangan daw ng ICC (Import Commodity Clearance.) |
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Post by Octaver on Jan 14, 2005 9:32:19 GMT 7
Tube amp for beginners?
I suggest before you venture with this kind of system, you need to familiarize with it. The following are my tips:
- Attend listening session
- Check your preference PP or SET
- Ask members of this thread who want to upgrade & buy his system (recommended) Especially if you are familiar with his system.
Mura na, may after sales support ka pa!
BTW, DIY is no room for beginners for tube investment! IMHO
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Post by s2kov on Jan 14, 2005 9:37:10 GMT 7
Bakit naman? Tube amp for beginners? BTW, DIY is no room for beginners for tube investment! IMHO |
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Post by punk kid on Jan 14, 2005 12:11:43 GMT 7
Quote from Master Andrew.. The chassis and metal works are now underway. I think baka matapos sa punch and press by first week of Feb. Dami kasi holiday, dont want to pay overtime, baka lumagpas sa budget. Anyway the circuits are done, and is now playing in my home in atemporary chassis. I am happy with the outcome, to think na wala akong ginamit na "boutique" parts. All standard but good quality. Pwede pala yon. Anyway you can always install the expensive caps, its your ear and its your money. But as for now I am happy with the sound using the mini version of the contodo preamp, that is no cd input buffer and no phono stage. Keeping you posted. Malapit na. Hintay ko na lang ang tubes, dito na, hold pa nang customs, need to get ICC, bagong rule bigla, nasunog kasi yong bahay sa dasma, lahat ng electrical and electronic products kailangan daw ng ICC (Import Commodity Clearance.) Malapit na pala ang launching ng AMX budget amps  sana pumayag ng home audition si Sir Andrew  |
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Post by wanderlust on Jan 14, 2005 13:21:57 GMT 7
Tube amp for beginners? BTW, DIY is no room for beginners for tube investment! IMHO this i wonder din sir? why naman? thnx ;D |
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Post by wanderlust on Jan 14, 2005 13:25:30 GMT 7
Malapit na pala ang launching ng AMX budget amps sana pumayag ng home audition si Sir Andrew kahit audition sa bundok na lang sir hapi nako don! ;D |
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Post by hans adriane on Jan 14, 2005 14:06:07 GMT 7
Hope pumayag ng bundok audition.. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by punk kid on Jan 14, 2005 16:00:46 GMT 7
hopefully pahiram ;D ;D ;D
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hopefully this year i can have one ma-vintage of new prod ;D 
