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Post by joel on Dec 30, 2005 21:45:19 GMT 7
I find the Sony Supremas CD-R (in yellow, violet and other colors except for the black) a bit bright sounding when used in burning cds. Though very detailed. Im using NTI Gold 6 burner.
The Philips though is kinda dark sounding.
What are your thoughts on other CD-Rs, brands?
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Post by JojoD818 on Jan 3, 2006 8:40:28 GMT 7
I made extensive testing of those "black" CDRs after reading a similar test made by some audiophiles on the net. They are said to have the highest rate of reflection hence better reading and data transfer. I have tried the brands Melody, RIDATA, Afa, Imation and many more.
I also did a lot of comparison on different cd writers and softwares. As much as the sound is concerned, all sounded good as the original discs and didn't had any problems being read by all cdp they were tested on. Since I primarily use surplus cdps, the black CDRs are really helpfull since they can be easily read by my surplus cdps.
JojoD
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Post by Superman on Jan 3, 2006 11:56:29 GMT 7
try TDK...thanks!  |
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Post by zetroce on Jan 3, 2006 13:03:35 GMT 7
I find the Sony Supremas CD-R (in yellow, violet and other colors except for the black) a bit bright sounding when used in burning cds. Though very detailed. Im using NTI Gold 6 burner. The Philips though is kinda dark sounding. What are your thoughts on other CD-Rs, brands? Joel, Just a question on your findings. How do they come out to be brighter on different colors when all that are being recorded on the discs are just 1s and 0s? Based on my experience, the cheaper CD-Rs tend to skip alot, and some portions cannot be read at all, but have not experienced brightness. Maybe if you change the manner of recording, compression rate or recording software, but if everything else is the same except for the media, i don't see a reason why it should sound brighter than the source.  Nagtatanong lang po, naghahanap din kasi ako ng magandang CD-Rs that i can use to record my LPs TIA |
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Post by Superman on Jan 3, 2006 20:47:44 GMT 7
in my experience, TDK pa rin...yung pang CD-R music ang label... psssttt...dong, hanap ka ng ganito:  US$450 yan!!! |
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Post by joel on Jan 3, 2006 21:28:39 GMT 7
I find the Sony Supremas CD-R (in yellow, violet and other colors except for the black) a bit bright sounding when used in burning cds. Though very detailed. Im using NTI Gold 6 burner. The Philips though is kinda dark sounding. What are your thoughts on other CD-Rs, brands? Joel, Just a question on your findings. How do they come out to be brighter on different colors when all that are being recorded on the discs are just 1s and 0s? Based on my experience, the cheaper CD-Rs tend to skip alot, and some portions cannot be read at all, but have not experienced brightness. Maybe if you change the manner of recording, compression rate or recording software, but if everything else is the same except for the media, i don't see a reason why it should sound brighter than the source. Nagtatanong lang po, naghahanap din kasi ako ng magandang CD-Rs that i can use to record my LPs TIA Hi Zetroce! Same as you, been searching for a more natural sounding blank cd-r. This is how it happened...i recorded the cds of jack bawaw, JTaylor Classic Songs and Stacey Kent Collection I using the oem software of my Acer Laptop, NTI Gold Burner 6. I used the Sony Supremas color yellow, Philips, and a black Sony Supremas blank CD-Rs for both cds as a friend of mine is also asking for copies of said cds. No adjustments or compressions were made in the burning process, but when we played it ... the difference is very obvious... the black Sony exhibited a more natural sounding output , the Philips is darker ... more of an analogue sounding (maybe this will be your choice for your LPs, give it a try...it's only P11) and the yellow one is obviously brighter... it does not even have the same sound quality in terms of timbre as the original copy. The 4 of us listening in the pad unanimously found the same observation. The tube amp was already running for 3 hours when we were playing the cds. I understand that cds are just 1s and 0s but i am also puzzled why it sounded differently from one another that is why i am also asking here. |
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Post by D0Hbert on Jan 3, 2006 22:40:06 GMT 7
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Post by zetroce on Jan 4, 2006 21:51:04 GMT 7
Hi Dohbert, Tried opening the URL you sent, but it seems the file has been moved and cannot be found. Anyway, on the items you mentioned, jitter and timing differences, i stated in my post that if everything else are the same except for the media, i don't think that the different color of CD-R would make it sound brighter than others. I know for a fact that there are other factors that may cause this, that is why i stated in my example that color of the media is the only thing different, and everything else is the same. It's just my opinion anyway and i'm just sharing based on experience. ;D ;D ;D I still buy the cheapest black coated CD-R though, tama si Jojo, kahit lumang CDP, nakakabasa ng Black CD-R, pero pag colored, maraming skip.. ;D ;D ;D Thanks for the info, i'll try to access it later on, baka down lang yung server. |
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Post by D0Hbert on Jan 5, 2006 7:04:47 GMT 7
Parang chicken and egg situation kasi, precisely because of the color of the dye or the quality of the cd-rs themselves, playback of these will cause some jitter and timing error, thus may cause differences in sound. I'll try and look for another link, although I have the pdf in my HD, pwede ko email sa inyo. Its a good read, after reading that doc mga 2 yrs ago, namakyaw ako nung memorex black sa cdr-king  |
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Post by zetroce on Jan 5, 2006 8:03:14 GMT 7
Parang chicken and egg situation kasi, precisely because of the color of the dye or the quality of the cd-rs themselves, playback of these will cause some jitter and timing error, thus may cause differences in sound. I'll try and look for another link, although I have the pdf in my HD, pwede ko email sa inyo. Its a good read, after reading that doc mga 2 yrs ago, namakyaw ako nung memorex black sa cdr-king Thanks Dohbert, e-mail it at ecortez@avaya.com . Magandang basahin yan. Salamat. |
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Post by jagner on Jan 5, 2006 10:31:35 GMT 7
DohBert, kaya pala wala na akong makuhang Memorex Black CDR, pinakyaw mo na pala. BTW, read the Genesis PDF file, recommended nga nila yung Memorex.
Anyway, I've used a number of black CDRs before, and I do hear differences. I guess it's in the dye. Black dyes don't do much influence on the red laser dot, thereby more focus on the data being read.
Better do an experiment on this again (kaso wala na akong mabiling black CDR)
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Post by hans adriane on Jan 5, 2006 11:11:05 GMT 7
I tried the red and violet colored CD-r ok din parang same character sa sound ng black.. readability depend sa software used in burning. sa nero meron distortion but when i used Alcohol 120% nawala na yun distortion.
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Post by D0Hbert on Jan 5, 2006 11:21:53 GMT 7
Cge sir Zetroce, try ko i-send sa inyo.
Btw, try nyo rin yung Imation na black yung cover tapos platinum silver yung ibaba. Ok din tumunog.
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