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Post by iceman90a on Jan 12, 2005 16:02:19 GMT 7
Madaming klase, meron: - platform - roller balls - cones - sand filled - air filled post naman kayo ng experience nyo (pwera biro ha)
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Post by hans adriane on Jan 12, 2005 16:07:15 GMT 7
rubber footer.
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Post by kimpao on Jan 12, 2005 17:03:47 GMT 7
squash balls (sliced in half) ;D ;D
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Post by JojoD818 on Jan 13, 2005 12:37:14 GMT 7
parang water bed kaya pwede?
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Post by wanderlust on Jan 13, 2005 16:18:14 GMT 7
can we add the purpose or reason behind said isolation devices.
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Post by Octaver on Jan 14, 2005 10:53:02 GMT 7
XINDAK VT Series High-Grade Damper Shackles Model: VT1 Material: Base made of graphite of high purity (99.99%) + Ball made of special ceramics
Review: It improve details, gradation and analysis of music so as to inflect sound of piano, guitar or violin more sparkling and crystal-clear, voice more fruity and soft. High-frequency (HF) and medium-frequency (MF) are more fine and smooth, and worth hearing for many times. Medium-frequency (MF) and low-frequency (LF) are more pure and honest like an inexhaustible soft internal force, and especially flexibility of LF and positioning and width of sound field are obviously improved.
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Post by Octaver on Jan 14, 2005 10:54:55 GMT 7
can we add the purpose or reason behind said isolation devices. Generally dampen or reduced "micro-vibration"
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Post by avphile on Jan 14, 2005 15:15:19 GMT 7
Here's some quote from resident gurus at audioholics.com regarding my querry on how effective these devices are:
Solid state electronics do not exhibit microphony (literally, to act as a microphone and transmit airborne or physical vibrations) to any significant degree. You'd have to physically thump on the circuitry to make any sound happen. No, don't try it!
Tubes, turntables and phono cartridges can be more microphonic, but it'd have to be a fairly extreme situation. I can recall some TT/phono cartridges in The Old Days getting feedback from nearby speakers. But I think these new megabuck TTs that look like they were made to measure atomic weights or act as ship gyros or something are a bit silly.
I do have some sorbothane isolation thingies under my old TT (they were gifts from a tweaky friend). They might help keep it from skipping when I go galumphing across the room but that's about it.
It's a lot more important to keep your amps cool by allowing air space around them.
And another:
There is no way that normal levels of vibration can affect the sound output of a solid state amp, preamp, receiver, or CD/DVD player. Unless the vibration is so bad that it is causing physical damage to connections or to cause the laser to mistrack, there is no problem.
Turntables are a different story. Some are more sensitive than others, but many will pick up subsonics and feedback if not isolated. In some cases, the isolation may need to be pretty extreme.
Tube amps I have no data on how vibration affects the sound. It makes sense that they would be more easily damaged from vibration as the tube themselves are susceptible to vibration damage.
And still another
Not even if a CD player is on a speaker blasting at 120 dB spl:
"CD Magic", Pholmann, Ken C., Stereo Review, July 91, pg 39-42.
Personally, they have their place for turntables. But you don't have to spend a fortune to achieve respectable isolation.
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Post by Octaver on Jan 17, 2005 10:12:52 GMT 7
Personally, they have their place for turntables. But you don't have to spend a fortune to achieve respectable isolation. Same with you sir avphile before i never believe in CD player isolation untill I hear it together with other fellow music enthusiast. My basis... maybe before is what i learned (From school) and what I READ. Sometimes you can't really know the truth by just believing to other opinions, some reviews are deceiving, try it to know? CD players doesn't have only Solid state parts not to mention those tube CD player, but it has a very fast motor to drive the CDs
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Post by ppp383 on Jan 19, 2005 23:01:27 GMT 7
Have audition the Symposium - A ball bearing isolation device. And what it makes to music is like getting a new external DAC. Music has much clarity and openess and the depth has double. Detailed got somehow improved though focus still unchanged. I may say that I was taken aback by this small equipment which also has a very nice price tag.
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Post by wanderlust on Jan 20, 2005 15:43:38 GMT 7
Have audition the Symposium - A ball bearing isolation device. And what it makes to music is like getting a new external DAC. Music has much clarity and openess and the depth has double. Detailed got somehow improved though focus still unchanged. I may say that I was taken aback by this small equipment which also has a very nice price tag. oks to sir ah, pwedeng e DIY ;D
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Post by ppp383 on Jan 20, 2005 19:18:19 GMT 7
oks to sir ah, pwedeng e DIY ;D I'm planning too, in fact I already have a roller ball, I'm just designing the platform, and what materials to use. Will give you an advice if the project is a success...
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Post by Octaver on Jan 21, 2005 8:07:30 GMT 7
I'm planning too, in fact I already have a roller ball, I'm just designing the platform, and what materials to use. Will give you an advice if the project is a success... Hi, just wan't to share, the concave hole on the platform should be polish (mirror finished) in order to give free movement (smooth). remember you are avoiding micro vibration which is invisible to naked eye.
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Post by wanderlust on Jan 21, 2005 10:59:27 GMT 7
I'm planning too, in fact I already have a roller ball, I'm just designing the platform, and what materials to use. Will give you an advice if the project is a success... thnx sir, will be posted for the update, in the meantime i might as well hunt around for the roller ball, whered you get urs sir?
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Post by Superman on Jan 21, 2005 11:26:51 GMT 7
Have audition the Symposium - A ball bearing isolation device. And what it makes to music is like getting a new external DAC. Music has much clarity and openess and the depth has double. Detailed got somehow improved though focus still unchanged. I may say that I was taken aback by this small equipment which also has a very nice price tag. may i borrow?? what do you mean sir when you said "it's like getting an extenal DAC"??
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Post by audioboy on Jan 21, 2005 11:43:39 GMT 7
may i borrow?? what do you mean sir when you said "it's like getting an extenal DAC"?? ;D ;D ;D
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Post by hans adriane on Jan 21, 2005 20:36:50 GMT 7
thnx sir, will be posted for the update, in the meantime i might as well hunt around for the roller ball, whered you get urs sir? Bulitas na malaki... san ba ako nakakita ;D ;D ;D
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Post by jetok on Jan 23, 2005 22:18:56 GMT 7
hans,
yund dala ni oozie bulitas yun di ba? sayang we were not able to test it with your new
TURNTABLE!!!
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Post by kimpao on Jan 24, 2005 0:06:50 GMT 7
Bulitas na malaki... san ba ako nakakita ;D ;D ;D Mabigat masyado yun master, baka di mai-angat. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by hans adriane on Jan 25, 2005 10:40:07 GMT 7
hans, yund dala ni oozie bulitas yun di ba? sayang we were not able to test it with your new TURNTABLE!!!Senor Jetok, Tsalamat pero mukhang wala sinabi TT ko luma sa Bago mong TT hehehehe
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